User talk:Brazil

addictmud: sheesh
addictmud: he called to ask me to look at some document at some point tonight and check it for technical accuracy before he sends it to a customer
addictmud: and it turned into a long chat session
addictmud: thankfully it wasn't anythign bad directed at me
nynaeve2469: that's good
nynaeve2469: so like hi
addictmud: hehe, hi love
addictmud: how are you feeling?
addictmud: how's your head?
nynaeve2469: it's ok
addictmud: what trouble are you into?
nynaeve2469: i was working on american history homework while you were out
addictmud: aHH
addictmud: did you see the class: cleric page?
nynaeve2469: yeah it doesn't mean alot to me
addictmud: oh
nynaeve2469: i dont understand alot of it
nynaeve2469: i know what the spells are
nynaeve2469: i know what the mana cost to cast the spells are
nynaeve2469: i dont get alot of the rest
addictmud: oh, ok
addictmud: more pages of info i'll just add, hehe
addictmud: did you look at the formulas link?  the man forumla is in there
nynaeve2469: yes i did
addictmud: mana
nynaeve2469: but i don't understand it
addictmud: hmm
addictmud: well, bring it up, I'll try to explain
nynaeve2469: i'm looking at the cleric page
addictmud: go to the formulas
nynaeve2469: ok
addictmud: ok, for clerics, their mana base is 10
addictmud: the first thing we do is take that 10, and look at their race
nynaeve2469: how does one know their base is 10?
nynaeve2469: it says it
addictmud: players don't know these numbers
nynaeve2469: i see that on the other page
addictmud: right
nynaeve2469: right i know players dont know that
addictmud: so if the cleric is a dwarf, we subtract 1/4th from their mana base
nynaeve2469: ok
addictmud: 10/4 is like 2.5... so 2 gets subtracted
addictmud: if it's an elf, we add 1/2 to make it 15 instead
nynaeve2469: ok
nynaeve2469: now i get it
addictmud: oh :-)
nynaeve2469: ok now that makes sense to me
addictmud: I knew you'd get it
nynaeve2469: ok so what exactly are we to do with these pages?
addictmud: well, first off, i'm not sure if everything is there
addictmud: of course, I need to put in all the numbers for all the spells (damage, etc)
nynaeve2469: ok
addictmud: but I dunno if I've missed anything else
addictmud: but the idea is to get a real look at what each of the classes actually are, how strong their skills are, etc
nynaeve2469: in other words something to let you and gargs play with
addictmud: and see where we need to start making changes... update these pages to the final product, then implement it all at once
addictmud: something told me it would be mostly him and I :P
addictmud: so I had an idea for the imperial orb I wanted to pass around
nynaeve2469: i dont know much of this
nynaeve2469: ok
addictmud: well, we've talked about mucking things a bit so mana pools are a factor again
nynaeve2469: right
addictmud: so what if, as part of that, we had the orbs do their own absorbtion from the mana pools
nynaeve2469: well we had talked about having a quest for a "better" orb
addictmud: and then we can say, if they run out of mana, they'll drain the orb like a recepticaly
addictmud:  -y
nynaeve2469: that's a neat idea
addictmud: but!  they wouldn't nessairly want that, because an orb would affect the strength of their spells based on how much mana it had stored up
nynaeve2469: go on
addictmud: like say
addictmud: for example, the max an orb could hold was 100 mana
addictmud: every 5 seconds it would take 1 mana from the pool to charge itself
nynaeve2469: ok
addictmud: the more mana it had stored up, the say... longer duration a spell would have... or armor would be stronger... or harm would do more damage
nynaeve2469: ok so the down side?
addictmud: but each cast of a spell would also have a chance of draining one mana from the orb because it's being depleted to give that strength
addictmud: but say, a 100 mana full orb would give harm a bigger boost then if it had 3 mana
nynaeve2469: hmmm
addictmud: and if they run out of mana, it would start draining the orb to cast their spells
addictmud: but without the bonus'... and possibly a penalty when you started using the orb mana directly
nynaeve2469: we should give it more tho9ught then
addictmud: 100 is just an arbatrary number to make the example simple
nynaeve2469: right
addictmud: and maybe have it so they have to hold the orb in order for it to be able to charge up
addictmud: and the longer they don't have it equipped, it startes to bleed off any stored mana
nynaeve2469: i still think the orb needs to be a floating nearby
nynaeve2469: that's what it is
addictmud: like your body acts as the conduit to the earth to build up it's charge
nynaeve2469: i like the idea
addictmud: it is?
nynaeve2469: yeah in the books the orb circles Zerika's head
nynaeve2469: remember we talked about it
addictmud: oh i see what you mean
addictmud: I really always envisoned lights as floating over your head, so :P
nynaeve2469: yeah well 
addictmud: philo stone, imperial orb... platinum orb, etc
addictmud: all these years I pictured them floating around your head, hehe
nynaeve2469: the imp orb defintely
addictmud: those M:TG Unhinged... does anyone actually play a game with them? hehe
nynaeve2469: oh yeah
nynaeve2469: i used to have them in my decks
addictmud: that's sweet
nynaeve2469: so i have ideas perking
addictmud: I was just looking at one, it has a colorless mana cost of 1,000,000
nynaeve2469: hehehe
nynaeve2469: yeah
addictmud: what kind of ideas?
nynaeve2469: i like that idea of sorc to blah to blah
nynaeve2469: and i like that idea of certain skills/spells to classes based on race
addictmud: the race one I figured we should deff go with
nynaeve2469: i like that one
nynaeve2469: and it really got me thinking
addictmud: about?
nynaeve2469: dwarf today
addictmud: ok
nynaeve2469: ok like heere's one
nynaeve2469: i dont know if it would work better with bard, priest, cleric or paladin but i'm leaning toward bard, priest or cleric
nynaeve2469: (i thinki have a better idea for paldain)
addictmud: ok
nynaeve2469: i'm, reading this ase i go

Orbs

fire
water
shadow
earth
electric
holy
wind

soul orbs
melee orbs

Brazil: and last time I talked t nyn about it, I coded an orb item type that
was insetable.... but I don't remember anything beyond that :P
Brazil: and that's not necessairly code that has to stay in, I'm ok ripping
that out
Gargamel: herm...
Gargamel: i remember vaguely
Brazil: what IS an elemental orb?
Brazil: I have an orb of fire, wtf does it do? hehe
Gargamel: we tossed around the idea of having different elemental orbs (each
orb would be speciffic to an element)
Gargamel: and the orb would boost the power of that elements spells to the
caster
Gargamel: for instance if someone had a fire orb ... fireball would be a
certain percentage higher in damage (depending on the power of hte orb)
Nynaeve: it makes fire spells more effective and maybe makes the player weak
to ice
Gargamel: ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh!!!!!
Jagang: Maybe have different types of orbs , defensive and offensive ,
offensive will boost their power as gargs says , and maybe defensive will
place a shield around the char , or give them resistance to that type of
attack